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Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby dogrox » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:18 am

Hello, I have a problem here that seems to me somewhat sall of a sudden. First off, I want to clear up that I have many years of computer experience but this problems caught me for a loop. So I am bugged by it. Big time.

Now the sitution is I have been using DVDSHRINK for almost two years. Never but never had any problems with it. Using the last version released version. JUst all of a sudden out of the blue with in the last week or so I CAN NOT seem to get any higher ANALYZING or ENCODING speeds like i used to.

I HAVE ALWAYS used to be able to DEEP ANALYZE and with ENHANCEMENT (SHARP) and was able to encode movies wihtin 2 - 2 1/2 hours. NEVER had any problems. Now it is like taking forever like 58 minutes for ANALYZING (never took that long 15-20 minutes most) and now like 4 hours to ENCODE at a RATE of around 400-500 kb/s. Buffered readings fluctuates between 15-43mb! never was this slow. This has never been this slow before and i havent changed any of the settings.

Now to answer the technical questions, I rip the DVDS to HDD FIRST, using DVDDECRYPTER and that works fine. So the DVD DRIVES ARE NOT the problem here.

I run DVD SHRINK, load the files off HDD and then shrink to another partition on a WD 200 gig 7200rpm drive (split roughly into two 100 gig partitions). IT is better to use different partion as it doenst have to read and write to the same partition, though not as great as going from one HDD to a completeley different HDD, but i never had any problems, like I say till just recently. I have two HDDS one is a SEGATE that is only 40 gigs and that has the OS INSTALLED. The WD 200gig is for my music work and graphic work. But I use it for backing up my movies as well.

Now I DID check the DMA settings that was like the first thing I did. Being into computers as I am that was like instinct. The HDD dma is set ON for BOTH HDDS at UDMA 100 Mode 5 using the 80 wire cable. Bios is set right and WIN XP reads them correct. The DVD drives are also set for UDMA 33 which is mode 2. But the DVD shouldnt have any effect on the encoding or analysing since the files are ON the HDD. The dvd disks are never in the drives at this point. The DMA settings HAS to be set anyways for DMA cause then my music software wouldnt work, as they demand DMA inorder to run since it is direct to HDD recording, and those programs are working fine.

The HDD drives are defragged regularly. I have removed DVDSHRINK and cleared registry info and then reinstalled it a couple times. STILL NO GO! Now I have tried using CLONEDVD just for the heck of it, and that seems to RIP WAYYYYY FAST but the quality was not as good and i REALLY prefer the DVDSHRINK over Clone, my personal opinion thats all. I guess i just like the way it it is easy to work.

Now this has been happening recently to ANY DVD I PUT IN. EVEN my older ones I have backed up before that used to take like 2 hours, NOW TAKE up 4 hours or so to do the same orginal disks. (I did them to test knowing that in the past they worked fine and encoded fast. ) SO i know it isnt just a particularly HUGE DVD. Now this is doing it to ALL of them.

My system is a P4 2.8 GHZ, 1 gig ram winXP, and it always ROCKED before in the past.

I NEVER use the music computer on line, in fact I dont even have DIAL UP INSTALLED on it. I use it for my music work only. BUT i have checked it with VIRUSES and SPYWARE/ADWARE on daily basis. Call it extra precautions :) as sometimes I would get music cds to master that are multi media cds with data on them, but ALL IS CLEANED nothing ever is shown up.

Any tidbits of information would be appreciative. Nothing in my hardware has changed, no software as been changed this problem seems like it was just all of a sudden . Like I say I WOULD RATHER use DVDSHRINK and to continue to use it, as it has been nothing but a GOOD program to be for the last 2 years. I hate to have to go back to the restore disks just for one program giving me a trouble. Cause then i would have to reinstall all my music programs and grpahic software all over again!. :(

Thanx!

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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby car67 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:11 pm

Maybe your DVD Drive is dying as everything else seems correctly set up. Have you tried replacing it?
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby dogrox » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:09 pm

The problem is NOT in the dvd drive. As I mentioned in my previous post that i dont even use the DVD drives to shrink the disks. I rip them FIRST to the HDD with DVD DECRYPTER, and that works fine. They rip fast and well. Then i dont even have the disk in the drive when I shrink from one partion to another partition on a 72 rpm HDD!. So my DVD drives arnt even being used during the deep analysis and actual encoding.
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby car67 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:26 am

I hope you GET your problem solved BUT doubt that POSTING such long diatribe will get much response here. Have a go at being concise in future, although as you're such an expert I'm wondering why you're here at all?
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby Redhaze » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:02 am

Howdy,

Turn off hidden folder setting.

Navigate too [XP] C:\Document and settings\user(The one you use DVDShrink under)\ProgramData\DVDShrink
[Vista] C:\ProgramData\DVDShrink

Clear out the Analysis Results.

See if that helps.
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby dogrox » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:01 am

Hey Redhaze... yeah silly me i should have mentioned i did that too!.. that was another thing i already did at first!.. I havent checked that folder in over a year.. and there was alot of them in there. But that didnt obvioulsy didnt do anything.. I cleaned that folder out when i uninstalled Shrink and reinstalled it.. as well as cleaning all registry info, when i first noticed the problem!

But anyways.. i tried to do the same movie again yesterday just for the halibut, and WITHOUT the ENhancment (sharp) setting on.. i unckecked it.. ... but leaving the deep analysis on.. and it seemed to do the movie in just less them two hours total. Roughly 1 hour for for the Deep Analysis. and 48 minutes to encode!... The resulting backup was Perfect.. and the times was normal.. so i am thinking maybe it was that i NEVER used that Enhancements before.. and only used the DEEP ANALISIS by itself... I know i turned that DEEP ANALYSIS .. ON when i first did the first time i ever used it cause the back up had artfacts in it.. like colour spots that would appear randomly.. so turning that ON i never had any problems with them spots since... so i always left it on!!.. I thought i had the Enhancements ON but maybe i didnt.. anyways all seems to be ok!!. i mean without using the enhancemtns!.. :)

Thanx doodes (both of yas) for trying to help!




Redhaze wrote:Howdy,

Turn off hidden folder setting.

Navigate too [XP] C:\Document and settings\user(The one you use DVDShrink under)\ProgramData\DVDShrink
[Vista] C:\ProgramData\DVDShrink

Clear out the Analysis Results.

See if that helps.
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby lwagner » Tue May 27, 2008 1:37 pm

If you recently upgraded Quiktime try uninstalling it. This worked for me when I had the same slow down.
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby Chetwood » Wed May 28, 2008 7:38 am

Redhaze wrote:Clear out the Analysis Results.

See if that helps.


Why should it?
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby dogrox » Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:38 pm

Hey sorry if this is an old post.. but i havent been around in awhile.. and i havent had to shrink any movies until just recently and noticed that the problem was somewhat the same!

The most recent times i am getting to ANALYZE and ENCODE are abotu 45 minutes to an hour for Analysis... and about 1 hour to 1 and a half for the encoding.

Now i noticed on my Buddys computer who has a QUAD core CPU.. the WHOLE process between analysing and encoding both.. took under 7 minutes to do the whole process. I was just totally blown away.

I realize that the QUAD CORE must have made a differnce.. .. b ut i am still thinking what could make mine so slow like it is.. OR is my times average for the cpu i have.. a P4 2.8 GHZ?

I havent installed QUICKTIME.. so thats not a problem.. and I thought clearing the ANALYZE results.. would only make the program REANALYZE?!?! i cant see how that would shorten the time up any just by clearing them out?


I have a question.. is there somesort of BENCHmark test results for different CPUS and the times it took to do the ANALYZING and ENCODING?! i would be interested to see that to compare?!

Thanx all!

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Quit double-posting, necro-posting is enough

Postby Chetwood » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:52 pm

DVD Shrink does not care about Quicktime and deleting analysis files has no effect other than resulting in the very same analysis files when done on the same material. Something's messing up your system, my slower single core manages 5 MB/s on analysis (depending on matreial). There's also no benchmarks available.
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby dogrox » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:30 pm

Hi, all i was doing was replying to the other peoples responses to my question. I didnt think the issues they were saying would matter either. So i just responded in kind thats all to answer them.

As far as benchmark testing. I did post a reply on another POST here abotu Quad Core speeds and how fast my friends compute with Quad Core PC worked But i see you deleted my post, no biggy. I guess i didnt catch the rules about posting in others posts. Sorry doode!

AND if, like you say, there was something wrong with my system to why i cant get any faster results, that was why I posted the original question in the first place to see if there was something i could fix to make it go faster or to find out if my times were normal for my system specs.
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby Chetwood » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:43 pm

Of course that's why you posted the specs but that only goes so far as to tell us your machine should encode a lot faster. Like I said, my single core takes less time which makes me assume something is messed up with your system. What it is is anyone's guess so I don't know what you can do to fix it. I just pointed out it's not Shrink (runs fine on single and dual core) and it's not Quicktime what's causing this. Also 'normal' times differ for a variety of reasons, one of which is the encoded material so there's no rule of thumb there. Since no current benchmarks exists you're on your own once you've checked all troubleshooting options mentioned in the FAQ.
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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby dogrox » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:52 pm

Ok Thank you, I appreciate your time!

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Re: Has become very slow Rate in Encoding and Analyzing

Postby Atmos » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:32 am

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Greetz,
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